vbulletin tool feature - The Reputation System

[Somdej]

Hi all, this feature may not be new to all, allow me to go through the characteristics of this tool.

1. There are two mechanism. One is the rep points and the other is the rep altering power.

2. Everyone starts off at 10 rep points which is neutral. We can start from 0 but 10 gives everyone a buffer so tat even if u get zapped from the start, u still have some way to go.

3. When ur rep points drop below -10, I'll put you under moderation. If it drops below -50, I'll disable ur account.

4. You'll need a minimum of 10 rep points and 50 post counts before you get any rep altering power.

5. Every 1095 days (or 3 years equivalent) of membership will be awarded with one additional rep altering power. And every 1500 rep points members gained will give them one additional rep altering power.

6. Every 10000 posts earn you a rep altering power.

7. A limit to only 3 clicks a person can give over a 24 hour period. You can only add or minus thrice daily.

8. User Spread. You cannot give to the same person until you have given to 100 others. So that means you cannot just click on one until his reps go spiralling down uncontrollably. So if a member has very high reps, that's just many have voted for him. Or if a member has very low reps, he is disliked by the majority.

9. The reputation system is not about right or wrong. It's about whether someone agrees or disagrees with your post. No reason is needed. E.g. You can say an amulet is a holy item but someone think u talk rubbish, u can get zapped. You win some, you lose some. Simple as that. It's basically about opinions. Remember u have 3 clicks per day and you cannot click the same member again until you have clicked 100 others, so click wisely.

Cheers and happy forumming
Regards

[Somdej]

1. Below every user/nick display column, click on the reputation icon (http://www.siamamulets.com/images/buttons/reputation.gif) you deem that post deserve an increase or decrease points, which is determined by the Rep power you are empowered.

2. You cannot "up'" or "zap" identical post twice.

3. View a summary of last 5 reputation history under your User CP option.

[Somdej]

Hi guys, some members pm me asking why when they zap a member, the points deducted is only half of its reputation power. i.e.

(1) reputation power of 4 - when you add/up, its a 4, when you subtract/zap, its a mere 2.

(2) reputation power of 3 - when you add/up, its a 3, when you subtract/zap, its a 1.

The system is defaulted at this settings to encourage positive constructive postings that will lead to addition of reputation points and not the other.

Hope you guys understand and happy clicking.
Regards
Somdej

[chee keong]

Hi all, this feature may not be new to all, allow me to go through the characteristics of this tool.

1. There are two mechanism. One is the rep points and the other is the rep altering power.

2. Everyone starts off at 10 rep points which is neutral. We can start from 0 but 10 gives everyone a buffer so tat even if u get zapped from the start, u still have some way to go.

3. When ur rep points drop below -10, I'll put you under moderation. If it drops below -50, I'll disable ur account.

4. You'll need a minimum of 10 rep points and 50 post counts before you get any rep altering power.

5. Every 365 days of membership will be awarded with one additional rep altering power. And every 100 rep points members gained will give them one additional rep altering power.

6. A limit to only 1 click a person can give over a 24 hour period. You can only add or minus twice daily.

7. User Spread. You cannot give to the same person until you have given to 50 others. So that means you cannot just click on one until his reps go spiralling down uncontrollably. So if a member has very high reps, that's just many have voted for him. Or if a member has very low reps, he is disliked by the majority.

8.The reputation system is not about right or wrong. It's about whether someone agrees or disagrees with your post. No reason is needed. E.g. You can say an amulet is a holy item but someone think u talk rubbish, u can get zapped. You win some, you lose some. Simple as that. It's basically about opinions. Remember u have 2 click per day and you cannot click the same member again until you have clicked 20 others, so click wisely.

Cheers and happy forumming
Regards

Bro somdej, is high reputation pts = high knowledge? I think your system is unfair, I can see some people with high rep points but when I go deep into their posts, they dont know a nut about amulets and vice versa.

[Kenn001]

Bro somdej, is high reputation pts = high knowledge? I think your system is unfair, I can see some people with high rep points but when I go deep into their posts, they dont know a nut about amulets and vice versa.


bro chee keong, i dun think high reputation point = high knowledge la, the reputation point system means how other forum bros perceive, relate, evaluate and response to your postings. :)

For your information, I personally know of some nice bros here with zero posting but with a respectable amount of rep point, how they got it - becos they actively particpate in the forum organised events :laughingsmile:

If you go deep enough into the rep system write-out point nos 8, it exactly answer to your question.:)

Hope I kaypoh correctly, :D :D

[Somdej]

Bro somdej, is high reputation pts = high knowledge? I think your system is unfair, I can see some people with high rep points but when I go deep into their posts, they dont know a nut about amulets and vice versa.

bro chee keong, i dun think high reputation point = high knowledge la, the reputation point system means how other forum bros perceive, relate, evaluate and response to your postings. :)

For your information, I personally know of some nice bros here with zero posting but with a respectable amount of rep point, how they got it - becos they actively particpate in the forum organised events :laughingsmile:

If you go deep enough into the rep system write-out point nos 8, it exactly answer to your question.:)

Hope I kaypoh correctly, :D :D

Yes kenn001 you are absolutely right.

High reputation points do not mean high knowledge. The reputation points system is just an additional feature to gauge bonding between members, not an evaluation tool to determine one's level of knowledge in amulets.

Regards
Somdej

[Somdej]

I've start this thread due to I've encountered my last update on my rep was power 3 and now become Rep power 2. Even now rep points also has been deducted without any informed. Can anyone advise this?

Virus attacked or php tables down also wont informed me dont you think so?? :rolleyes:

Relax la, the reputation table is corrupted ok.:rolleyes: :(

[uno]

Hi richard73,

Server encountered some problems particularly to the reputation system.

Let us resolve first and we will reply you soonest.

Regards
uno :)

[Somdej]

Reputatin table is corrupted, repairing in progess.

[Somdej]

I had only managed to salvage the reputation table back to a reset mode. What you see is what you get, all past additional rep points awarded to members via admin control system I am unable to retrieve. i.e. organise events added points, attend gathering added points, etc etc.

Revised system:

1. Every 365 days of membership will be awarded with one additional rep altering power. And every 250 rep points members gained will give them one additional rep altering power. Every 1000 post members also gained them one additional rep altering power.

2. A limit to only 3 clicks a person can give over a 24 hour period.

3. User Spread. You cannot give to the same person until you have given to 50 others.

[Somdej]

It appear somehow dome members are perturbed about the reduction in karma reputation points. Since morning, I had received pms and sms on the enquiries on the issue.

As explained earlier, this is the baseline I can set, or else I am considering reset whole forum members' points back to 10, we'll start afresh. So please this is set and thats it. Thanks for everyones' co-operation.

Regards
Somdej

[Kenn001]

It appear somehow dome members are perturbed about the reduction in karma reputation points. Since morning, I had received pms and sms on the enquiries on the issue.

As explained earlier, this is the baseline I can set, or else I am considering reset whole forum members' points back to 10, we'll start afresh. So please this is set and thats it. Thanks for everyones' co-operation.

Regards
Somdej


Bro Somdej, whatever you have done is good enough for me, and I think also for everyone, moreover I see that you yourself have also suffered a reduction of about 300 over points, so I dun think we should be overly perturbed by this technical issue, well done :thumbs up: :thumbs up:

[Somdej]

do reputation points really matter that much?

more rep points, got money to earn? :confused:

Obviously no, its just a mere form of gauge how well or bad your posts are, how you communicate cyberlly with other members.

However there are some who think likewise, thinking high reputation points make him/her on top of others.

[ktsg]

Obviously no, its just a mere form of gauge how well or bad your posts are, how you communicate cyberlly with other members.

However there are some who think likewise, thinking high reputation points make him/her on top of others.

Ya la..

Reputation points not really important one la...

Anyway, don't really need to see reputation points to decide the quality of a person la..

Take bro Richard as an example, I see the stuff he post, and I have met him in real life before and I think he, as a person, got standard la, eh sai one....

So no need to worry so much about reputation points la... Less reputation points, then less reputation points la.. I don't think it really affects how others view you.

[Somdej]

I had received several feedbacks and an official verbal complaint against a member pertaining to reputation points.

I advise please do not go around mass pm people to up your reputation points, because if I ever received negative feedbacks about such act, I will reset your points to 0, simple as that. End of the day, I do not wish to see arguement or unhappiness about points.

[pentan3008]

Mr Somdej 'tm'

Is there an option to view who give Karma Pt to me ?
Cos i got 2 new Karma pts..very happy...:)

One of the kind bro taught me this:

Click the "User CP" somewhere at the top of the page.
Then go down to the bottom of that page.
You will see which post you got upz or zap points.
That person might leave his/her name.

[pentan3008]

Thanks!!!:thumbs up: ...but if the person did not leave any comment or if more than 2 person upz pts, it will overwite the comment of the 1st person liao..Anyway thanks again

You can see up to last 5 persons. Unless that person zap you or a newbie then they will not leave names lah! :D

[kwayteow]

I had received several feedbacks and an official verbal complaint against a member pertaining to reputation points.

I advise please do not go around mass pm people to up your reputation points, because if I ever received negative feedbacks about such act, I will reset your points to 0, simple as that. End of the day, I do not wish to see arguement or unhappiness about points.
Based on my own experience, this member is storing up on points in order to create more havoc so that he wun be zapped to negative which will hinder his posting as negative points as that means your posts have to go through moderation before getting posted here. My 2 cents... :D

[Somdej]

Please take note of the latest changes to the settings of reputation system. The change is to ratio-match the increasingly number of members of the forum.

[Somdej]

To all,

Its my responsibility to remind you all guys that strictly no manipulation of rep power to effect on someone else points using OTHERS' nickname, be it whether its a 'up' or 'zap'. Meaning you add or deduct someone and drop someone else name.

I have a peculiar case where member Silvia points was deducted and member kwayteow name was signed off in the case. There is zero tolerance in this type of nonsense and I will and had zapped the real culprit a good 10 points.

[Somdej]

Bro somdej,whats the different between karma rep and rep power?

Karma reputation points and Reputation Power are both mechanisms that are closely knitted. Its one of the feature that you see in a typical vbulletin based forum board. As simplest as it is, it is just a tool to roughly gauge the popularity of one's participation, however it can be mis-used sometimes.

Everyone started off with 10 as reputation points, the higher you have along the way, it showed most probably associated with either with positive posts/discussion or a friendly approach towards others and perhaps vice versa with negative number resulted.

Reputation Power is the key to alter someone else reputation points and is totally dependent on the following factors: number of days joined as a member (every 365 days will increase by 1), reputation points received (every 500 reputation points will increase by 1) and post count (every 5000 posts will increase by 1).

Regards
Somdej

[Somdej]

so bro somdej..
sorry i am new i am not familiar with this forum yet..
can i say to be like this.
the karma reputation points is rate by others by agree or disagree??
and one day we only can rate 2 person within 24 hours?
i not very understand bout the rep power..

Yes its about agreement and disagreement - opinions. 3 clicks for 24hr period.

[Somdej]

Hi Bro somdej
my reply is alway come out late is it due to the karma point?
Do i need someone to increase for me or juz wait until it go up itself?

All posts are moderated either:

1. First 20 posts upon registration.

2. Karma points less than 10.

For now you have freewill for postings, karma points are given by members. Refer to this post (http://www.siamamulets.com/showpost.php?p=3381&postcount=4) on how points are given.

[uno]

Since the introduction of the reputation system in Feb '06, the system has underwent several changes to meet the continuum growth of the forum.

The primary purpose of the reputation system is to pass down the "moderation task" to the members themselves, reflecting a collective sentiment of the community. The reputation system is an integral part of the overall architectural setup of the forum and is administered by several dynamic factors, i.e. increasing membership, popularity of the system usage, etc.

Throughout the years, there are 2 key challenges faced by the management and they are:

One, to maintain the reputation system balance by tweaking the reputation conditions to an optimum level where it is not over-paced with the forum growth. i.e. members chasing after reputation points.

Two, the constant monitoring of grievances by members who were affected by the negative occurrences resulted from the system.

Of the 2, the management has re-looked into the system and further fine-tuned the conditions to curb the points as mentioned above.

The considerations are painstakingly thought-over and the decision for changes are mandatory for forum's further sustainability. This change process will affect the forum as a whole but we beseech all to understand the principles and the management's approach. We implore all to continue to give us your utmost support in this hobby community.

The details of the changes can be found here : http://www.siamamulets.com/showpost.php?p=341&postcount=1

Regards,
The Admin Team.

[Somdej]

Previous Settings

4. You'll need a minimum of 10 rep points and 50 post counts before you get any rep altering power.

5. Every 365 days of membership will be awarded with one additional rep altering power. And every 500 rep points members gained will give them one additional rep altering power.

6. Every 10000 posts earn you a rep altering power.

7. A limit to only 3 clicks a person can give over a 24 hour period. You can only add or minus thrice daily.

8. User Spread. You cannot give to the same person until you have given to 100 others. So that means you cannot just click on one until his reps go spiralling down uncontrollably. So if a member has very high reps, that's just many have voted for him. Or if a member has very low reps, he is disliked by the majority.


Current Settings

4. You'll need a minimum of 10 rep points and 50 post counts before you get any rep altering power.

5. Every 1095 days (or 3 years equivalent) of membership will be awarded with one additional rep altering power. And every 1500 rep points members gained will give them one additional rep altering power.

6. Every 10000 posts earn you a rep altering power.

7. A limit to only 3 clicks a person can give over a 24 hour period. You can only add or minus thrice daily.

8. User Spread. You cannot give to the same person until you have given to 100 others.


For example, member X joined the forum on 28 May 2007, his post count till date is 5488 and reputation points is 3101.

Computation of Rep power:
Base rep power: 1 (Every member who hit 50 post count with rep points of 10)
Date joined: 1 (Joined more than 1095 days)
Post count: 0 (Require 10000 posts to achieve 1)
Rep points: 2 (2x 1500 rep point block)
Total Rep power: 4